xanax is bad for gerd

[dansmi]

i went to see my doc yestr\erday to tell him that i am not feeling well with only 20 mg of rabeprazole ,he suggested to double the doze .
than being an anxious person myself i suggest to him that i take xanax,he told mr that there is another type of tranquilizer speiclayy for gerd that does not weaken LES, he said that xanax weaken LES
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

[The Pard]

Hi Dansmi,

Did you tell your doc that you only want to try
a very low dose of .25mg ?
He will laugh and tell you that is a waste of time. Then you can say...
"Well then.. Why are you saying that it will
affect the LES?"

You will know in a few days if it is worth continuing.

If he is still against it... PRINT this article
and let him read it.
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Shipko1.html

The Pard

[daw]

Originally posted by dansmi
....he told mr that there is another type of tranquilizer speiclayy for gerd that does not weaken LES, he said that xanax weaken LES

And what is this other type of tranquilizer especially for GERD that does not weaken the LES?

[dansmi]

well to tell you the truth i did not ask him
i will try to take a small doze of xanax to see how it feels

[dimple]

I am taking xanax, 0.25 mg daily, split into two halfs to be taken twice a day. it helps and my doctor said this dosage is perfectly safe and nothing to worry about at all. And it doesn't cause any drowsness.

[dansmi]

good for you!
did you gerd got better after xanax r u taking any ppi with it
regards

[dimple]

When I was only on PPIs, the symptoms persisted. Then I added xanax, i did feel a difference, as in the acid was not so "fierce".

Then two weeks ago i went to see another doctor, he gave me a different diagnosis compared to my previous specialists. He said I have IBS. He gave me Tegaserod, Motilium and trimebutine. I also take prilosec and xanax 0.25. Over the 2 weeks while on these med, I think i am 85% better.

[dimple]

hi, i just went to read your "history". I think your symptoms sound a lot like my friend. She is doing well now without med. She had bloated stomach and acid reflux up her throat. PPIs alone never help her for months, until she took Reglan 4 times a day. and over a couple of months, she is now cured. Her doctor said she had a sluggish stomach, not so much weak LES.

now my doc diagnosed me exactly like hers, that is IBS. I hope i am in the correct direction. just let you know in case it helps.

best regards.

[Dr_Shipko]

In reading this thread, it seems that Xanax is being used for GERD beyond the panic disorder related GERD that I originally studied. Of course, doctors have used tranquilizers for GERD and IBS all along.

I have a comment about Reglan from a psychiatric perspective. While it does promote more rapid emptying of the stomach, it blocks dopamine receptors similar to the major tranquilizers such as thorazine and halperidol. As a result, over time it can cause the same side effects -- Parkinsonian symptoms, tardive dyskinesia, dystonia and akathisia. While the manufacturer suggests that the drug not be used for more than 2 - 3 months at a time, many doctors continue to prescribe Reglan for years at a time.

[dimple]

Hi, i read somewhere in the forum that xanax causes depresson. is it true? If true, how can it be anti-anxiety? also, do you know if xanax causes faster heartbeat?

thanks!

[GW]

Hi Dimple,

Actually, I posted up a few times about how my doctor prescribed Celexa (the antidepressant) for some "initial side effects" that may appear to be depression. Furthermore, these side effects only last a couple of days.

Remember, anti-anxiety meds calm you down. It doesn't cause faster heartbeats.....if anything, it regulates a better, calmer heartbeat due to it's soothing effects.

G

[dimple]

thanks GW! i also observed no side effect when i was only on xanax and PPI, not even drowsiness. right now i experience drowsiness and some palpitation after meals, i suppose it could be due to my other med.

[trailer_man]

it works good for me,for my gerd cause most of mine is from panic disorder but it weakens the les...good and negative i guess..

[Ellie]

what is the other tranq that does not weeken the les?

THat other antacid is only availa ble in england right?

Tegaserod or trimebutine.
which one is an ant acid that binds bile?

[dansmi]

hi i was wondering how you r feeling now,is reglan similair to motilium,did your freind take it with ppi and tranquilizer or just alone,
what do you think is the best tranquilizer for gerd?
a doc suggested seroxate any comment
regards and happy new year

[dimple]

Hi,

presently i am not feeling that good. Remember I found relief with Tegaserod, Motilium and trimebutine? after a month on them, I believe trimebutine (don't think it's available in US) is causing me gastric, because it tastes very strong and I believe it has some harsh effect on my already sensitive stomach.

I also stop Tegaserod to see how things go. And the ingestion came back.

I am now on pantoprazole which controls my acid very well, but i don't find motilium alone effective at all. i will be back on Tegaserod next week.

My friend took reglan with prilosec. I don't know how reglan is similar to motilium, but reglan is ten times more effective. i tried a couple my self, my whole digestive system felt great. But I couldn't tolerate the side effect, hyper drowsiness and fatigue, too bad for me.

i do not have any knowledge which is the best tranquilizer, i am on xanax 0.25 and well... at least i sleep very well each night and i think it's important to recovery.

regards and god bless.

[dansmi]

good for you! do you think xanax will have any side effect on you if you ever decide to stop it
did you have lpr symptoms like sore throat? ...
regards

[dimple]

I really don't think so. I don't even feel drowsy after taking xanax, just that when i sleep i can sleep very well. i think my dosage is really very low to worry about.

right now my ingestion is pretty bad, do you have ingestion too? i feel very uncomfortable after meal.

[Ellie]

dimple

Have you tried digestive enzymes?
or eating a "live " food with every meal, like sprouts or a salad?

Have you tried pro biotics?
ellie

[dimple]

Hi Ellie,

no, i never tried digestive enzymes. I read somewhere some enzymes will "eat" into the stomach lining while helping to digest, i don't know how true but scared to try. My lining is very sensitive and still recovering.

As for pro biotics, ermmm...it's my fault, i only take very irregularly, due to forgetfulness and lack of discipline.

gosh, i don't know what's wrong with me these few days, i feel very uncomfortable after meal, and dizzy. don't know if it's the side effect of pantoprazole.

dimple

[Ellie]

dimple

The main digestive enzyme that will eat your lining is protease.
Here is a formula without that, designed for us with ulcers.
Natural choice products - Gastric Degestive multiple exzymes.

Look on the internet. Take after several bites of food. Start out with one... drink some water with your meals too.

You must take pro biotics. Not just acidophalus, but at least 3 of the essential strains. Every day. !!

Don't eat any refined foods or sugar. You must get rid of any candida you may have.

Also take some GOOD EFA oils to reduce inflamation in the gut.
Take L-glutamine to heal the gut. Take every morning 500 mg and at night. The lining repairs itself at night so take on an empty stomach before bed 500 Mg. It does not hurt at all.

Eat alphalfa sprouts or lettuce at each meal. Apples are not going to hurt you. Apples are the perfect food and are alkaline. Small bites and chew well, but eat raw. Or, but in a blender and make an applesause but don't cook it.

Any cooked food, cook at a low temp. You must get some "live" food enzymes in your body to digest your food.

DGL is good too as a natural antacid. BUt be careful it does not burn your throat. If it does, dilute it and swallow fast.

Our digestion is impared with ppis.
I am down to 1 in the am and 20 mg of pepcid at night.....

"Stomch Comfort" tablets are a natural ant acid. Look on internet. I chew 2 of these after dinner and 2 at 9:00.
1-888-403-1896.

Aloe by Carlsons or Klaire is what i am getting today. ( finally found a reliable source for a gentle aloe ).

Also, try " food combining". Look on internet for this . do this for 3 days and i promise you will feel better.

Vitamin A is good for healing and some extra zinc ( 15 mg per day only )

JUICE this:

celery, carrots, cukumbers and CABBAGE . all fresh.
Sip it all day, small amounts, dont take too much at first. take it easy.!! It does not take much to do the healing.
Its the cabbage that is very good for the stomach, but the others must be there too.

Anti inflamatory herbs:
cats claw, ginger ( not much ) liquid alphalfa berb.
i am just starting these today.

some of this info I paid big bucks for at a doctors, other i got from books,, but it all is true. Realy will help.

OH, eat some fermented foods at each meal like low fat KEFIR AND MISO SOUP. Look on internet
VERY alkalizing and healing.

I hope this helps everyone.
god bless

ellie

[Ellie]

Several more things.

1- Do not overload your stomach. Let your stomach empty in between meals. If you pick in between ( even with good foods ) you will slow digestion, it will back up and cause all symptoms.
And don't let your self get constipated. Use apple fiber with pectin, which heals the stomach too.

2- Just because I say to eat a raw food at each meal, do not go out and make a "raw vegtable salad". This is too much ruffage and will upset the gut. Juice it - and dilute it with water.
Drink the juice in between meals. ( sparingly )

3- Eat soft foods for 1 week. If we eat toast, bacon ( God forbid) or crackers, it will irritate the les and cause it to malfunction. Course foods will keep the throat nice and raw too.

4- Chew extra well, eat slowly and in a relaxed place. Take 1/2 hour to eat.

5- Get this product. It is the best. very soothing, alkaline, non allerginic, and geals the gut.

Ultra Balance medical Foods:
Ultra Clear Sustain. - for gastrointestinal support.

If it were not for this powder, I think I'd be much worse.

Doing all of these things is helping me. ellie

[dimple]

Hi Ellie,

Thank you so much for all your tips and advices, they sound good! Come to think of it, the ppi must have caused all my recent symptoms, after all i have been on ppi for half a year and i have not been eating much fruits (scared of acid) and pro biotics. You see, I am a chinese, so I am not into juicing or salads. But i will definitely try the juice you recommend, and the apple.

I have been taking DGL for about 2 months. It doesn't burn me, and i think it aid in healing my lining.

you mentioned 3 essential strains of probiotics, do you know the name of all of them? right now i am drinking cultured milk, i wonder if it's sufficient.

i stay in singapore, not in the states, it's a pity i couldn't get most of the things you mentioned easily.

thanks again!

[Ellie]

dimple

NOW makes one called 8 billion Acidophilus and Bifudus.
Just ask for a very complete pro biotic.

There is also one that is really powerful called
Primal Defence.
do a search in Google to find it.

Look for KEFIR instead of the regular milk. Im not sure if cultured milk is good or not...

MISO: You must use this already.