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    Cabbage Juice

    I understand that pure cabbage juice is very helpful with gastritis and other gastro intestional problems.

    I can't seem to find a recipe but understand that you can't make a batch and put in fridge, you need to make a small amount at a time and drink immediately (4 -6 oz per day). This seems like a pain not being able to store it but I'm willing to do anything at this point.

    I have a VitaMix at home which can turn anything into juice or soup so I don't need a juicer.

    Does anyone have a recipe or guidelines on how to make this? A tasty recipe!

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    I'm sure you can find recipes for this using a search engine. Good luck!

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    Cabbage Juice

    I tried searching, a few posts on it but no recipe.

    If someone doesn't mind, can you post recipe! Thanks

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    Cabbage Soup

    Hope, I found this through a Google search. I have never tried it and since cabbage sometimes gave me a headache and gas, I eat it sparingly. Good luck.

    Cabbage Soup Recipe

    6 large green onions
    2 green peppers
    1 or 2 cans of tomatoes (diced or whole)
    3 Carrots
    1 Container (10 oz. or so) Mushrooms
    1 bunch of celery
    half a head of cabbage
    1 package Lipton soup mix
    1 or 2 cubes of bouillon (optional)
    1 48oz can V8 juice (optional)
    Season to taste with salt, pepper, parsley, curry, garlic powder, etc.
    Directions:

    Slice green onions, put in a pot and start to saute with cooking spray.

    Cut green pepper stem end off and cut in half, take the seeds and membrane out. Cut the green-pepper into bite size pieces and add to pot.

    Take the outer leafs layers off the cabbage, cut into bite size pieces, add to pot.

    Clean carrots, cut into bite size pieces, and add to pot.

    Slice mushrooms into thick slices, add to pot.

    If you would like a spicy soup, add a small amount of curry or cayenne pepper now.

    You can use beef or chicken bouillon cubes for seasonings. These have all the salt and flavors you will need.

    Use about 12 cups of water (or 8 cups and the V8 juice), cover and put heat on low. Let soup cook for a long time - two hours works well. Season to taste with salt and pepper.

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    Thanks, But

    Let me back up, in the early days when I came here, there was talk about cabbage juice (not soup) and the fact that you had to drink it immediately after making it. Once you cook or steam the cabbage, it's of no benifits as the sulfars dissipate (I think). So if you do a search on this forum for cabbage juice, you get a few posts talking about it but no recipe or direction how to make it; how to keep it; or how much to drink each day.

    The postings highlighted that it was a decent cure for anything gastro intestional and someone cured an ulcer after drinking this stuff for a month.

    Going on line and searching is only brining up soup recipes.



    Maybe it was Hawk who posted it, can't recall.

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    Here's a recipe!

    I found a recipe for you using Google (must I do everything? ) -- you can make it via cooking or not. Here it is:

    [b]Cabbage Juice - method 1:[/b]
    Chop up a handful of cabbage.
    Drop the chopped-up cabbage into a saucepan
    Add a cup or two of water.
    Heat until the water is a nice purple color.
    Remove from heat and let cool.

    [b]Cabbage Juice - method 2:[/b]
    Chop up a handful of cabbage.
    Drop the chopped-up cabbage into a blender.
    Add a cup or two of water.
    Blend until the water is a nice purple color.

    [b]Either recipe: [/b]
    If you don't want cabbage chunks floating around, pour the juice through a strainer.

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    Hope

    Here Hope Cultured cabbage juice -- make the best lactobacteria for your stomach [url]http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/09/18/cultured_cabbage_juice_make_the_best_lactobacteria .htm[/url]

    Hope I read your endoscopy reports and it's almost impossible to unlikely your particular gastritis is causing your symptoms. There are many causes of gastritis including GERD, the foods we eat and just getting older because the mucosal barrier of the stomach thins out in time.

    Many chronic gastritisis don't ever go away , and they don't cause symptoms either. I'm one hundred percent positive that your doctor would agree with that statement. Although i'm not a doctor, just wanted to point this out to you so you could discuss it your doctor. I would say you either have GERD. --- (and just because you had a negative endoscopy, does not mean you don't have GERD) ---- or you have non ulcer dyspepsia . Not caused by stress but exacerbated by stress . Treatment antispasmodics, PPIS and anti depressants. Please ask your doctor about these two possible diagnoses . Good luck Hope

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    Here's more

    [url]http://www.healthrecipes.com/cabbage.htm[/url]


    and here's a paste

    Duodenal ulcers have responded almost miraculously to the drinking of cabbage juice. Its origin as a traditional remedy goes back to the work of Garnet Cheney, M.D., of Stanford Universal School of Medicine some thirty years back. He is reported to have cored many ulcer patients with raw cabbage juice. The juice contains the antiulcer factor, vitamin U. This vitamin is destroyed by cooking. The treatment consists of taking 90 to 180 gm. of cabbage juice for three times daily followed by a natural diet.

    To render the juice more palatable Dr. Cheney often added celery juice, made from both stalk and green, pineapple juice, tomato-juice or citrus juice. Chilling the mixed-juice also helps to improve the flavor. The juice, however, should not be taken all at once, but in many intervals throughout the day. If one does not have a juicer or blender, one can nibble on raw cabbage four or five times a day.

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    Trish, an update

    Hi Trish; I don't have GERD! I don't even have a little GERD! Wish I did, it may be easier to cure.

    After meeting with my doctor a few more times after the biopsy report came in, his conclusion is I have tried just about everything available. Various PPI's; diet change; Librax to relax my stomach muscles; all kinds of natural cures from aloe juice to molecure. Nothing helps long term. The longest relief I experienced was from taking Librax.

    I don't have an ulcer and yes, the doctor did tell me that 90 percent of people who have gastritis don't even know they have it. Something is causing it and the conclusion is it's not medical, it's stress related and perhaps food related. I will agree on the food part.

    He gave me ten pills (Ativan 1 mg) and prescrbed Prevacid. The Ativan was to help me if I needed it. He also suggested I see a psychritirst to determine what medication would be more suitable. He's a gastro doctor and isn't comfortable giving me these types of drugs. So, I did see one he suggested, a nice lady, and it was concluded that I really would be better served by seeing a therepist because I don't show signs of classic depression or anxiety (panic attacks, not getting out of bed, all the usual). I function but I function with pain. She said to try the therepy and if that didn't help, to come back. But I'll tell you, since the Prevacid stopped working, it's been weeks of pain and discomfort to the point I want to tear my hair out. This feeling alone causes stress for pete's sake!

    So this morning, I took one Ativan and haven't had any burning all day. I have a bit of a heavy feeling under my breastbone but nothing like I've been experiencing. So, is it anxiety causing this in me - could it be? I thought about the non-ulcer dyspesia but the treatment is pretty close to what I'm doing now, PPI and now Ativan with therapy?

    I even ordered DGL and Mastica called CeaseFire, didn't help!

    I've had this condition for ten years, have been to several gastro doctors and a few specialists. I've taken every PPI available and nothing lasts. I don't think I know of anyone who has these kind of symptoms. Even GERD patients get relieft with medication!

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    Hi Hope Well you wouldn't know if you had GERD unless you had a ph test.

    I was told i didn't have GERD, and i needed therapy. I had the stress excuse used on me -- and i didn't take it well at all . I was that doctors worst nightmare ( he did tell me that) But i went on to have a ph test which confirmed GERD.

    And you don't need the classic heartburn symptoms to have GERD. GERD can certainly cause a lot of stomach symptoms. . Everyone of your symptoms fits the GERD relhm, including the heavy feeling under breatbone. So i wouldn't conclusively rule it out. Nor delayed gastric emptying.

    Non ulcer dyspepsia involves the same treatment as you've been doing . That in my opinion is the proper diagnosis. It's not caused by stress though . The cause is not known. It could be bacterial or virus caused , a vagal defect, the cause is just not known . It involves both motility and a sensitivity to normal amounts of acid.

    Elavil is good for that and blocks pain sensations and it helps people with various illnesses. Often if you stop the drugs, symptoms come back, because the drugs are only masking the symptoms. Just because it helps you, does not mean your illness is stress induced at all. Drugs have multiple uses.

    Do i think your illness of 10 years could be all stress induced ? No i do not. If doctors can't find an explanation at their finger tips , they tend to always blame it on stress. We all have stress in our lives, so it's an easy out for them. The GI tract is more complicated than that. I do beleive that stress makes an illness worse and the more we think about symptoms, the worse they get. Stress even makes ulcers worse, and ulcers are not caused by stress. So of course i couldn't say that stress isn't playing a part at all.

    It's not unusual for effects of drugs not to last. And not all GERD patients get releive from meds, that's why many have surgery.

    I'm so glad the elavil is helping you , that's the main thing. Hopefully everything will look up from here on in for you Hope . Couldn't of been a very nice summer for you.

    Have you tried that yucky cabbage juice yet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia
    Stress even makes ulcers worse, and ulcers are not caused by stress.
    Not to be a nit picker but there is a type of ulcer called a "stress ulcer". As defined in Taber's Medical Dictionary...."Multiple small, shallow ulcers that form in the mucosa of the stomach or, occasionally, in the duodenum, in response to extreme psysiological stressors. Stress ulcers seen in patients with shock, extensive burns, or sepsis are called Curling's ulcers and may be caused by mucosal ischemia secondary to systemic vasoconstriction. Stress ulcers that occur in patients with increased intracranial pressure (Cushing's ulcers) may be caused by increased secretion of gastric acid as a result of vagus nerve stimulation".

    The key word is "physiological" and not "psychological". As you noted, currently no ulcer can be attributed to psychological stress. But that possible cause of Cushing's ulcer has me thinking....psychological stress does increase gastric acid production....and GERD may involve vagus nerve stimultion. But most likely not in the extreme as in Cushing's.

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    Hi Daw Yes people often do develop stress ulcers after major operations, burns etc. It's such a shock to the body . But that's physical stress to the body itself , not emotional.

    Still as you point out, emotional stress does increase acid production to a slight degree which would be bad for an ulcer for example since ulcer involves a depleted mucosal lining--

    It also affects stomach emptying and viseral hypersensitivity ,so stress definately can play a role in an illness. Whether it can actually cause an illness is debatable. I don't know -- and no illness has been scientifically proven to be caused by stress, as of yet anyway. It's a theory right now, but not one that should be discounted.

    As for GERD , the stomach and vagus nerve involvement isn't well understood yet at all, future findings on this should be really interesting.

    But you'd have to agree the stress excuse is used way too much with doctors. There were about 200, 000 misdiagnoses reported last year, that's just reported .

    I just got off of the phone with the vet. The dog has been there since sunday. She had bloody diahareaha all over the white rugs throughout the entire house. And blood in her urine. Judging from all the blood all over the place , i thought she was on her last legs.

    Shes on IV , but the vet said all tests came out negative thus far and she seems better . He said it was most likely stress . Stress ? With blood all over the place? That's ridiculous , and besides.... what does a dog have to be stressed about ? To me, using that excuse is like saying i don't know what's wrong,...... only with a lot of doctors, "i don't know" isn't in their vocabulary.

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    Stress colitis (or inflammation of the colon due to stress or anxiety) can cause blood to be found in the dog's stool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia
    Yes people often do develop stress ulcers after major operations, burns etc. It's such a shock to the body . But that's physical stress to the body itself , not emotional.
    Yes, physical stress is called "physiological" stress. I agree that there's lots of theories about stress and illnesses that may be discounted or proven in the future. Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome and Colitis come to mind. I also agree that some doctors do tend to use stress as a catch all.

    Sorry to hear about your dog. I agree with Hawk about the colitis. Do dogs get colonoscopies? But whether your dog is having psychological stress...only you can know. Maybe the dog is picking up on all the stuff that's been going on with your health. Has the vet mentioned a pet psychologist. Or better yet a pet psychic. Maybe we all need psychics.

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    Hi Well colitis is another one of those diseases they argue as to whether it's stress induced or stress exacerbated. It's not known.

    Just talked to the vet, he'll know more tomorrow he says, and yes, dogs get colonoscopies . So do cats. Your cat may need one someday Daw. They even have to do the bowel prep and get conscience sedation. This vet wants 1400.00 for a colonoscopy. 1200.00 for an endoscopy . Vets are sure expensive these days. May call around, this vet is in the expensive part of town.
    Guess if all tests are negative she'll be diagnosed with a functional illness IBS , spastic bladder and non ulcer dyspepsia . Maybe he'll refer her to therapy , maybe i'll go too

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