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  • Thanks NYer! And I second your SO's suggestion. You would write a great book

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    • NYer,

      You got another vote over here for a book. The fact that you are very knowledgeable about all things GERD is a awesome, but what sets you aside is that you've actually experienced the pain, been there and now on the other side enjoying life. I have read about many natural remedies on many sites but its knowing how to use them and knowing that they actually made all the difference for someone, the success story is the biggest help for us newbies (at least for me). You're willing to help ppl from your experience, tell it like it is and tell ppl to not be stupid, which I love.

      Feeling pretty down today...chest and throat are hurting. Had no energy to play with my baby girls this morning. Hoping for better days soon

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      • Awww!!! That was so nice!
        Thanks for what you wrote. I really appreciate that - and that's pretty much the same thing that my S.O. said!
        And, your comment "tell it like it is and tell ppl to not be stupid, which I love." LOL! Hazel, you may be from the West Coast, but you truly have some New York City in your genes!

        So sorry to hear that you're having a lousy day, though. If I lived a little closer, I'd come by and play with your babies! I love them when they belong to someone else so I can go home before they have their melt-downs!

        Feel better,
        NYer

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        • NYer...Been to NY and love it. Have always said if I wasn't living in SF, NY would be my second choice. Only other place that would put up with me . The fact that Im Latin adds to the "charm".

          I've started taking Zantac in the morning and night and it is helping somewhat. I tried sticking to the all natural regime but couldn't handle the pain. I have 3 kids and work full time don't really get any downtown. I will try to go down to just 1 Zantac then off completely again but for now need the help. I'm getting to be extremely underweight which is stressing me out.

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          • Ha! An opinionated Latina? Yes, you'd fit right in as a New Yorker, too!
            I'm glad that the Zantac is helping you a bit. And since getting too skinny is an issue, don't forget my ice cream recommendation on a day like today when you're burning.

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            • Hello Ladies,

              NYer, a book would be awsome to do!!! And maybe a website geared towards the all natural regiment. That would be awsome!

              I've been doing better! I cut the PPIs down to once a day and I've been taking the digestive enzymes and all other supplements religiously! So far so good. Still get the heat in my stomach, chest and back but not as often as before.

              Now... my mother had an UTI went on antibiotics with terrible side effects and now she's experiencing exactly what I've been going through for the past two months! This has been very stressful emotionally, Mentally and physically. And her wedding is in 3wks, she's also dropping weight as well.... Sometimes I just sit and laugh because 2014 has definitely started with a bang!

              I hope everyone is feeling well this evening!!! And I'm glad those meds are somewhat helping! I'm still on TECTA...

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              • NYer..going to stop and pickup ice-cream on my way home

                Ladies...I'm in too much of a heart burn hell at the moment to experiment so I'm hoping one of you have already tried and can let me know...Peanut Butter or ???

                Thinking of trying a Whey protein shake with Peanut butter and Rice or Coconut Milk..little scared

                NikkiB..Im so sorry to hear about your Mom. I keep telling everyone I wouldn't wish this upon anybody. I've completely changed how I feed my hubby and kids to make sure they are as healthy as possible. Couldn't imagine seeing a family member go through this as well. Wishing her the best. Get her on Probiotics right away!!!!

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                • Nikki -

                  1. Hazel is correct. When you (or your Mom or anyone else) take an antibiotic, ALWAYS also take probiotics...BUT...make sure you take them 3 hours apart from each other. Otherwise the antibiotics and the probiotics will cancel each other out and not do their job. Then, after you are done taking all of your antibiotics, make sure to keep taking the probiotics. You should always take probiotics anyway, but for two weeks after finishing antibiotics, you should double the dose of probiotics that you usually take.

                  2. Get your mother on Clear Tract or if you can't find that one, get any brand of D-Mannose. That will help her UTI and she should stay on it to avoid getting another UTI. You cannot overdose on it and you can take it forever.

                  Hazel -

                  I don't know that peanut butter is a great idea, but I am totally guessing on this one. Nut butter is high in fat and thick. And fat digests slowly. I know if I eat nut butter, I feel full for a long time. Sometimes that's a good thing. But with GERD, the longer something sits in your belly, the more likely you are to reflux.
                  But, on the other hand, you're just talking about mixing some into a shake. So if you just use a small amount, and it's getting liquified in the shake, it probably wouldn't be so much of an issue. You might want to add some carob powder, which would make it chocolately tasting. Oh, and avocado is a good thickener that shouldn't be a problem. And - hey, why don't you put some of the black raspberry powder in, too!

                  Now that I think about it, when I make whey protein shakes, I always mix in a little flax oil. And that never bothers me.

                  Good Luck!!
                  NYer

                  You certainly are fine with the Whey Protein powder and the Rice Milk.

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                  • NYer..a little Peanut Butter goes along way I guess. The recipe I read was for 2 tbls of Peanut butter and one of Flax seed oil would add an additional 500 calories to the whey shake. Adding the Carob is a great idea. Don't have any of the black raspberry powder

                    NikkiB..I recommend this probiotic. Its a little pricey but on sale now on Amazon (43% off) It has 85 billion live cultures. Garden of Life RAW Probiotics Women

                    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H4A2PS/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2LQCKW9Y HRU9Y

                    Hazel

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                    • You know, you could also add some ice cream to the shake!!
                      But I like my ice cream straight and unadulterated, LOL!
                      (The sad thing is that I'm on a diet and cannot eat ice cream anymore. )
                      Oh, my Chinese food is on its way. I'm having steamed chicken with mixed vegetables and no sauce. I put a little salt and Basil-infused Olive oil on it. It ain't ice cream.

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                      • Oh I am so jealous of all of you guys who can eat peanut butter (one of my very favorite foods in the whole wide world!) and ice cream. Since 2006 and my diagnosis of rosacea I am unable to eat these foods (dairy and pb) without breaking out.

                        I am not going to lie though. My dh is an awesome baker (and he cooks yummy meals also!) and he occasionally bakes my favorite peanut butter brownies and pie so I will partake in that treat when he does. But that is only a few times a year max because while he would be happy to bake it for me all the time if I wanted my face would not be pleased.

                        I managed the manometry test yesterday and truthfully that test was easy for me to get through and I will get the results next week. Hazel, that 24 hour test really sucks. After the manometry I let them go ahead with the 24 hour test though I was reluctant. NYer I just decided to suck it up and try it since I wanted to try and find what is happening with my body. If you read my intro thread you would see that the doctors are not sure what is happening with me so I decided to just try and do the test because I have no real answers. Not sure I have heartburn and not sure I have acid reflux. I just know since February I have been suffering with burning on my upper body and chest squeezing and stabbing and all the tests have been negative so far. We are not even sure I had an esophagitis in Feb because that first gastroenterologist didn't take photos of the esophagus, didn't classify it the normal way to do so. He just wrote moderately severe esophagitis (not the right way to classify it as apparently there are stages) and didn't biopsy my esophagus-just my stomach. And my second endoscopy with another gastro a month later showed all to be clear. However that was after a month plus on PPIs and H2 blockers so for all I know the first gastro was correct and just went about an incorrect way of doing the endoscopy- without photos and without correct classification and without esophagus biopsy!

                        So it is still a mystery as to what is happening with the arms/chest/back burning and chest pains. Very uncomfortable and the PPIs never took it all away despite being on them for I think about 10 weeks in total? Half of that time on double dose PPIs. So that all led to my decision to just do it. Hazel, I feel for you and good for you managing to keep it in for a full 24 hours. No way I am going to be able to do that. I slept for exactly 90 minutes last night and I am in even more discomfort now. My throat is raw and my nose feels like it is being torn up along with the rest of me. Most unpleasant test so far. The doctor said I could remove it around 11 AM today (I had it put in at 3:30 pm yesterday) but I think it is going to have to come out soon. It's just over 6 AM here and I have been up since 3:20 AM and I cannot wait to get it out. I just hope I don't have trouble getting it out myself because I don't want to cause more damage yanno?

                        Funny aside. Yesterday coming home on the train at rush hour people couldn't get up fast enough to give me their seats on the trains haha. I guess I was quite the sight. A 102lb woman (lost 8 lbs since the start of this nightmare) with a tube coming out of her nose taped to her nose, cheek around her ear and taped to her neck with a halter monitor around her shoulder. LOL. And as one person was getting off the train she touched my shoulder and told me to feel better. Haha, who said NYers aren't a friendly bunch! They rock!

                        Nikki, I am sorry about your mom and hope she starts feeling better very soon!
                        Have you guys checked out Klare labs? I am taking their probiotic Ther-Complete. They have a whole range of probiotics to choose from for different reasons. Check it out and see if it applies to your mom's condition.

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                        • Good morning ladies, thank you so much for your suggestions. I will see if I could go to a health store and check out some probiotics today. Right now she's on PPIs and another pill for digesting and nausea. She throws up at least once a day usually in the mornings. She's also taking high blood pressure pills. I will look into this today!
                          I just thank God and all of you that I've been doing much much better. I feel at least 75percent better in my body. Still have a little discomfort but much better.... So at least I'm strong enough to help her get better.

                          Staying strong guys! I hope y'all have a wonderful day!

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                          • Hayley,
                            1. I have rosacea, too, but so far as I know, neither dairy nor peanuts affect it in any way. Interesting.
                            2. You are either very brave or very crazy to go on the subway in that condition. I hate the subway and almost never take it, let alone with a tube up my nose.
                            3. ALL of you symptoms are symptoms of GERD. You're searching for something else and it's certainly possible that you could ultimately find something else. But you have GERD. You can stop torturing yourself at this point. And stop being concerned that the doctors are puzzled by this. They don't understand GERD. Instead of spending so much time running around trying to get a doctor to diagnose you, spend time reading through this board and you'll see that ALL of the symptoms you've described are GERD symptoms and that doctors, I don't care how well-known they are, don't know what the F they are talking about when it comes to GERD. You'll see that virtually everyone on this board has been through this with doctors. And as soon as they get you freaked out enough, they'll put you on anti-depressants and/or anti-anxiety pills (that you don't need).

                            I live in a city where we have tons of world-renowned doctors. I went to 6 different gastroenterologists, 2 ear-nose-throat (ENT) specialists, and two internists. None of them knew what the hell they were talking about as far as my condition (GERD) goes. I finally went to a psychologist who listened to me and said that I didn't need a psychologist - I needed a doctor who could fix my physical problem. And he referred me to the naturopath. And after that, I also found an ENT who was into natural treatments whenever possible and he referred me to an internist who was also into natural stuff.

                            As far as I'm concerned, 5 of the 6 gastroenterologists, one of the ENTs, and one of the internist, should have their licenses taken away. And a few of them were on the list of "New York's Best Doctors".

                            Stop making yourself crazy. You have GERD.

                            -NYer

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                            • Nikki,
                              That's awesome! So glad you're doing better!!
                              Rock on girl!

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                              • Originally posted by NYer View Post
                                Hayley,
                                1. I have rosacea, too, but so far as I know, neither dairy nor peanuts affect it in any way. Interesting.
                                2. You are either very brave or very crazy to go on the subway in that condition. I hate the subway and almost never take it, let alone with a tube up my nose.
                                3. ALL of you symptoms are symptoms of GERD. You're searching for something else and it's certainly possible that you could ultimately find something else. But you have GERD. You can stop torturing yourself at this point. And stop being concerned that the doctors are puzzled by this. They don't understand GERD. Instead of spending so much time running around trying to get a doctor to diagnose you, spend time reading through this board and you'll see that ALL of the symptoms you've described are GERD symptoms and that doctors, I don't care how well-known they are, don't know what the F they are talking about when it comes to GERD. You'll see that virtually everyone on this board has been through this with doctors. And as soon as they get you freaked out enough, they'll put you on anti-depressants and/or anti-anxiety pills (that you don't need).

                                I live in a city where we have tons of world-renowned doctors. I went to 6 different gastroenterologists, 2 ear-nose-throat (ENT) specialists, and two internists. None of them knew what the hell they were talking about as far as my condition (GERD) goes. I finally went to a psychologist who listened to me and said that I didn't need a psychologist - I needed a doctor who could fix my physical problem. And he referred me to the naturopath. And after that, I also found an ENT who was into natural treatments whenever possible and he referred me to an internist who was also into natural stuff.

                                As far as I'm concerned, 5 of the 6 gastroenterologists, one of the ENTs, and one of the internist, should have their licenses taken away. And a few of them were on the list of "New York's Best Doctors".

                                Stop making yourself crazy. You have GERD.

                                -NYer
                                Haha NYer I think I love you

                                Thank you for sticking with me though I am driving myself cray cray that is sure! And your experience sounds very similar to mine. I have been to 3 gastroenterologists, 2 esophageal specialists who are also gastroenterologists but more specialized (so that makes 5 gastros!), my internist 5 or 6 times during these last 4 months, my cardiologist twice, my neurologist once (and had 2 MRI's), and my mom's rheumatologist not to mention my dermatologist (who accepts no insurance so it's always $350 a visit at least) because he's so smart and I thought he could help. I was going to see an osteopath but didn't want to spend another $600 plus for an initial consult when the answer very likely would be the same as with all the other doctors. I was planning a phone consult with a naturopath but then I found that afibbers link outlining so much that you have been talking about too and I decided to put that on hold because I am so tired of being proked, prodded and generally seeing any type of doctors yanno?! I have been to more doctors in these last few months then in my entire life!!! And I am exhausted. Physically, mentally and emotionally. You name it I am exhausted.

                                Thank you for being here for me and trying to knock sense into me. My problem is I come from a science background and I still think medical science (be it eastern, western or a mix) is going to help me but my faith has been sorely tested and I guess I am going to have to accept they don't know it all. I know medical science is sometimes not black and white and more of an art than a hard and fast science at times but OMG how difficult is it for them to embrace a little bit of an holistic approach to their science? I asked the esophageal specialist yesterday about probiotics and he said the problem is we haven't studied when you take them where they end up. That is do they end up in the right place where they are needed. Well at least he said it can't hurt but he was less than positive about them. Why can't they get up to speed it's the 21st century after all!

                                Nikki, so glad you are feeling better! Keep it up

                                Hugs,
                                Hayley

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